Sunday, January 30, 2011

Proof for Disneydoll

Read this -
      Pay attention to these words -
Will be sold... Possible buyers... Disney... Sale...
It's true.
 
 And this information comes from:
A real, official website, not made by someone who might fake it.
*Thanks to BrowseinStardoll for finding it.

So as you know so far Disney has been like an important client to Stardoll - I bet it pays a lot for the promotion here (a lot of free stuff campaigns have been from Disney, right?)... And all the latest make-over was just to make stardoll attractive to those possible buyers?
So this means that this really is true,
there will be changes.
And well if Disney after buying Club Penguin made the membership made more expensive [?] I read it from others, but not that I knew, have never been there...

So I guess this post is meant as -
Enjoy yur stardoll life as much as you can,
it won't last forever. 

I'm personally just sad about this all coming. It's like a good-bye to stardoll and all these years :S After the Disney-fying (as Disney has said, read HERE)... Because pardon but can you imagine me, 18 years old acting Pink Disney type princess? :D I can't. Well only in case I would want you to laugh at me :D But seriously we all - stardoll fashionistas - will be turned into pink princesses? Like stardoll was just little girl game for dress-ups. As the Disney's idea is (Disney Princesses as themes of stardoll)How come stardoll staff hasn't understand what stardoll is for us, the users. And I'm afraid -we might loose it.

I want to hear your thoughts,
and please be honest -

What is stardoll to you?
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179 comments

PwincessSara/Sara said...

NO NO NO NO NO!
This cannot be true!

Stardoll has finally and officially lost the plot. I swear down now-if they go through with this, I'm going to walk, and I'm sure a couple of thousand members are gonna join me in saying that.

Disneydoll?!?! REALLY? Is Stardoll trying to lose all the money that they've earned over the years?

I swear, if Disney buys it, then Stardoll is literally gonna become crap.

Let's hope they get some other potential buyer from anywhere. Or let's hope Disney backs out, because they made Club Penguin, in my opinion, a lot more worse and a lot less worth it.

Btw, random fact, but watching Australian Open 2011 final-is anyone else?? C'mon Murray! (British here :P)

Rayko said...

Ahhh...So i will enjoy how much i have left:] I'm quiting when Disney comes...Come on I hate the ideea... No more hb and stuff but only disney pink princess things -_-" Not for me, not at my age. Well Disney will lose a lot after buying stardoll since most of the members will quit lol. But that's their problem... I still have OurWorld so i'm good lol.:"D

Iovanca said...

if stardoll will die, my medoll, iovanca will die with it XD

Iovanca said...

disney fans are usually kids, and kids don't pay for such a website...

Amy said...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
someone has 2 stop this!
if Disney do takeover Stardoll then evryone would leave and they would make no money so it would be a big loss to them!WHAT IS STARDOLL THINKING!omg!!! I love stardoll its where i can chill out! im just gob smacked! SOMEONE HAS TO STOP THIS! i think stardoll members should start an campaign or something, to show we dont want Disneydoll! AND WE WANT STARDOLL! COME ON PEOPLE ARE YOU JUST GOING TO STAND BY AND LET THIS HAPPEN!

Plamena/Plami161 said...
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Plamena/Plami161 said...

No.No.No. A huge mistake.
Can you imagine having My Princess or something instead of Beauty Parlor? Because I can't.
Why Stardoll did all these changes on our medolls and such, when they will be selling it to Disney and letting them turn it into a Princess dedicated site? The only members left after this chage will be under 10 and they (or their parents) won't pay for Superstar as much as we do now. If there is a SS membership, of coure, They may turn it into a SuperPrincess membership.

Stardoll CL3M3 said...

I am outraged, shocked, hurt and disgusted to see that especially for the money it demolishes a routine built on this site and what stardoll is going to become a games that will not be fashion but will be for the baby. There will be deregistered so that they will be events all -10,000 members.
I so sad ....

(sorry for my Laborious Englis I'm French)

hellsgirl/amy said...

i love stardoll iv been on it for 4 years iv made good friends and hade fun i dont want to dresss like a stupid prinsees and also will we lose all are cloths and stuff i hope not cose iv spent alest 897 pound becomiing superstar

Kim/PopStarKizzle♥ said...

I've sent stardoll a very strong wordered letter begging them not to sell it to disney. We love the stardoll we have now, it attracts any ages that are interested in fashion. If disney come, they will change it, to a more girlier, younger theme, forcing members to leave. They will also increase prices and everything. Luckily my membership runs out in april, so I will be more influenced to leave if the change goes ahead.

Iovanca said...

i know.. i'm on stardoll since 2006 and stardoll is like part of my life.. itls in my everyday routine. i can't believe that it will be soon over..

Purplesparkles said...

This is ridiculous. I'm leaving if this really happens ;(

Blair said...

Girls do not know if you heard the news, in less than a year Stardoll will be bought by Disney which will make a site dedicated to the Disney Princesses for girls!
All Stardoll is in turmoil, however, I'm there! How many of us girls, especially those over 16 years, will remain on a site that incece that fashion will dress up princess?? (with all due respect and consideration that I love, but it is not a site like this that want to participate!)
Join the club on Stardoll NO.DISNEYDOLL (http://www.stardoll.com/it/clubs/home.php?id=2528209) and spread the word, together we can do it!!

If you want to contact me in my name Geneviev82 Sd!
Xoxo to all ^ ^

Chloé♥ said...

They think they'll be gaining tones more money when infact they'll lose millions because girls over the age of 10 wouldn't play on a little kiddy princess dress-up site. seriously!

Stardoll is perfect the way it is, i wish everything would just stay the same!:/

Iovanca said...

but what if stardoll has got some financial problems and that's why they want to sell ?!?

PuTTy_mE said...

Join the club to beat disney !
http://www.stardoll.com/en/clubs/home.php?id=2528543

Anonymous said...

!!!!
Whe have to do something!!!!
Come om whe can not let it just like it nothing!!!!

I am go left stardoll ife they buy stardoll!!!
How they can do that to us!
Whe have to do something!:) I will send a e-mail all of you to! And stardoll get so much e-mail from members that they not let it to Disney!!!! That idea is stupid!!!!!!
Whe have to so something! Go like what i say and maby this:
Lets go a 1 day not on stardoll and whe have to hope that they have learned!!!

Mailgirl101 said...

Wolt Disney would twitch in his coffin if he would see this!!

Nemii/Daisygirlz ♥ said...

This canNOT be happening.
I thought it was fake .. I really did.
But seriously? Princess Stardoll? Please, if that's how it's gonna be, I'm most likely leaving. I love Stardoll the way it is, and I don't want to be playing on a site with princesses on it. What does Stardoll think we are? 6 year olds?

*disappointed face*

Chaza said...

I dont think the name or anything MAJOr will change i think that letter was a load of fudge cake. But I believe Disney may be buying stardoll and the only thing that will change will be the prices. They may only like club penguin, make you pay to use the site and the non-ss idea will be abandoned.

Stardoll to me is trying trends i wouldnt try in real life and expressing myself through fashion.

PwincessSara/Sara said...

petitionbuzz.com/petitions/nodisneydoll

Sign, our goal is only 100 signatures!!

Cutiepie80 said...

NO,NO,NO They can't ;O

If Stardoll does this deal with Disney,I will never ever touch that site again.No offence but Disney ruins most things it touches.I mean there's only going to be 6 year old's playing on it. I mean DISNEY PRINCESSES :(

I've only been on Stardoll for 2 years and I love it,I can't beleive that they're going to ruin all the happiness girls get from Stardoll.
This is the worst idea Stardoll has EVER come up with.

Kylie/missricopenguin said...

:S :S :S :S :S

When I first saw it all I was like, nah, not gonna happen. But then... :S
Let's hope this is Stardoll and Disney's idea of a bad joke. -.-

evermore1girl said...

No no no! I can't take this in. This is really bad could they maybe keep stardoll and have a separate bit disney doll for younger people ?

I can't afford that much for membership and this is really unfair. Why and how can this be happening...

-Margaret278- said...

omg!! nooooooooo....!!=[

I-Love-Pigs said...

I'm not saying I'm happy about this, but Stardoll may not change at all.
They may add more Disney dolls (Selena Gomez, Bridgit Mendler, etc.) and change it a bit but I really doubt that it's going to turn into a Disney Princess thing.

I may be wrong, but I don't think they have really mentioned Disney princesses, and it could be more of the older Disney stars (like all the teen ones).

I don't know, I just don't think it's going to turn into a Disney Princess site.
Stardoll's market is tween to teen, and I don't think Disney is stupid enough to lose about 3/4 of that audience.

Iovanca said...

i hope so...

Pandaeyes239 said...

NO NO NO NO NO - This is TERRIBLE :O

Stardoll, you have lost THE PLOT.
Really ?
You've just done a make-over, which sparked many , many protests, however most of us have learned to live with it.
DisneyDoll ???!!!! REALLY ?

If Stardoll let Disney buy , then Stardoll will loose all of the Money & Members they have earned over the years. I will CERTAINLY be leaving, which pains me to say. Stardoll is a place to get away from Reality , Problems & Concerns you may have.

Even if they Disney-Fy things , thats not so bad ...
But Changing the Name is the WORST PART.

Come ON STARDOLL. At least Keep the Name ? What will they call the 'Money' ? Disney-Dollars ?

Thanks Alot Stardoll.
You've really done it this time.

@PwincessSara/Sara : I am !
Murray Lost :(( [ British Here ! ]

arlsa96/Sarah said...

I cant and I dont wanna believe that :((((((((((

CChanelCrystale said...

No!! No.No.No. A huge mistake. Im leaving for sure If that happens..

xxDemi84xx said...

Connt be true Dx
I don't know why stardoll would sell it, they get LOADS of money out of it D:
I swear I'm going to go to Sweden and mess up their faces if they sell it -.-

Star8817 said...

NOOOOOOOOOO!!! YOU WILL REGRET THIS STARDOLL! YOU REALLY WILL! HOW CAN YOU DO THAT TO YOUR USERS? WE PAID REAL MONEY TO BE SUPERSTARS! I BELIEVE "SUPERSTAR" WILL NO LONGER EXIST IF DISNEY BUY STARDOLL! IT WILL PROBABLY BE "PRINCESSSTAR"! AND WHAT THE BLOODY HELL IS "PRINCESSSTAR"? STARDOLL IS MY LIFE! DISNEY IS BULLSHIT! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS ACCTUALY HAPPENING! DISDOLL? THAT IS THE STUPIDEST NAME I HAVE EVER HEARD! (it's like a bad word in Polish - pisdol) CRAP, ****, SHIT, CRAP, ****, SHIT, AND ONCE AGAIN, CRAP, ****, SHIT! GO TO HELL DISNEY! THE SITE WILL BECOME CRAP IN ONE DAY IF THE SALE GOES ON! PRINCESS THEME? PRINCESS THEME?!?!? **** THE PRINCESS THEME! I WANT STARDOLL BACK! TOGETHER WE CAN STOP DISNEY! WHO'S WITH ME?

RIP.McQueen / Erin ♥ said...

It wont happen - i bet you!
this happpened in 2007 and nothing ever happend!!

amelenia said...

NO NO NO!!!

What the hell, Stardoll?! HAVE YOU GONE BONKERS?!

I don't believe this. This is..an abomination!
DisneyDoll?! JUST NO!!!

Stardoll has become a part of my life! (As much as I hate to say it!), and I'm sure it has become a part of yours too! It's not just a game...it's a community. I can't even imagine playing on 'Disneydoll'.

LE2NE said...

I SAY WE MARCH INFRONT OF STARDOLL IN SWEEDEN WE HAVE THE ADRESS SO LETS MARCH! ( and i have no idea how are we gonna do that maybe some of the famous people can go like Miss_LolitaF Emorox4eva Houpsisonfire etc )
NOW WHO IS WITH ME!?

ziedefan said...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stardoll is my favourite game!I spend my all time at stardoll!Stuped Disney!I'm shocked!WHY?????Stardoll is my life!No way!If it becomes true-I don't play stuped ,,Disneydoll"!!!A big SHOCK to me!

Kristinkakiki said...

Noooooooooooooooooooooo!That is really?!? I dunno,that cannot be true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!im not ....stardoll is the best site!!!!that is sooooo ,someone will stop them i know it!!!

Jannnnnu said...

I so freaking hate it!
When disney comes then like...
4 years old childer will come to play here, and it's so freaking stupid. Because they don't know about
fashion.
Ahh.. it's so annoying.

I will quit then.

J

Anonymous said...

Um.. "stardoll' already sounds like a kiddy site.

Wake up?
Its fun seeing how ppl react about this site ;)

Toxxic.angel x

miley said...

OH NO! i have thought of this before that may something will happen to stardoll it can't be forever. but Disney?! i love Disney channel it's awesome with Hannah Montana and Wizards and Shake it up etc.. and i love stardoll too. but now i do not know who is better?! do you like disney that i'm talk about? or maybe you like the mikey mouse and princess stuff more..

LaFee-supergirl said...

It is just too painful to think about it.

allyguapa said...

I can`t believe it!! it`s terrible i can`t imagine another stardoll so... If this change happen I`ll go fast as many of u... Maybe is time to start looking for another site to express our fashion style.

Alice2078 said...

Oh my god. Stardoll has become and is going to become nothing to me. I will be joining the few other thousand members if they switch.

DiamentOva said...

O_O i wanna sell my account now -.-'

DiamentOva

red.girll said...

i joyned the no.disneydoll club..i hope that more girls and boys will do that because i dont want to loose stardoll...not now when they have nice hair and face stuffs and the clothes are awesome:(

FlowerBlossom. said...

I do love disney and yes, stardoll. but no, the two things should not be combined together. :P I'm not sure what the changes will be, but maybe it'll be good changes instead of bad, who knows ? ;D Lets just hope they just leave stardoll as it is.

FlowerBlossom.

Ocau1998 said...

if stardoll will be disneydoll i will be so sad.. yes i'm just being active since august 2010 but stardoll is my passion!!

Momijigal911 said...

Ohh goosh! Ok seriously.. Stardoll has changed over the years from a young childrens game to basically 9-100. The majority of people now are in between those ages and PrincessDoll - Ok that will never be taken seriously, I'm 13 and if they change it to that I'll be gone from that site so quick. What ever Disney buys eg. Club Penguin it becomes just utter rubbish. Disney fans are young kids and there's hardly any young kids one Stardoll. I love Stardoll and I love Disney but together - Ermm.. no thanks :\

OrangeAnnax said...

NO NO NO!!!!!!
I hope this whil never happen!!!!!
NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Glamorlover101 said...

OMGoodness stardoll what are you thinking:( Disney is so going to ruin your site. Disneydoll is the lamest name I have ever heard in my 15 years of living. There is a reason that I don't go onto any of my stardoll accounts.... THEIR FLIPPING BORING. Stardoll is the BEST site ever and now its going to be ruined. Stardoll has worked their butt up to where they are and the SHOULDN'T sell their hard work the Disney. I like Disney( movies and T.V. show) but OMGoodness what are they thinking.


If they go thru with this I'm going to leave. I know Disney is going to change EVERYTHING stardoll is. Everyone knows this and they know this why can't they just make ANOTHER site, and leave stardoll alone.

Seriously I'm just livid right now about this! Just absolutely LIVID!!!!

OrangeAnnax said...

The worst thing is that Disney thinks Stardoll is just a little kid game! I'm 15! i play it almost 2 yrs.! I whil leave stardoll if Disneydoll whil ever happen!
My sister is 24 and she also plays stardoll!!!

Carolyn (LonnaLang) said...

NOOOOO!!!!! HECK NO!!!!


This is horrible!!! Any girl 5 or 6 and under would love Disney..but how many members on SD are older than 5 or 6?
A HECK OF A LOT! Probably most of us!

This is horrible. I'm probably going to leave if they buy Disney. -.-

Honestly people, this needs to fricken stop...

_JolieAnn_ said...

you are so right with the words: Because pardon but can you imagine me, 18 years old acting Pink Disney type princess?
Im 21 and i have the same opinion but i also thing that girls with 15, 16 younger or older have the same opinion. For sure its cute to be one or two days a pink princess but then i change into a punk or a lady or a goth or a cheerleader... thats why we love stardoll because you can be whatever you want and whenever you want and if disney is taking me away i will delite my account.

Nena said...

That's terrible.I feel like crying,seriously.I have beeen member of Stardoll for 3,5 years and I can't imagine my life without it,since it is a part of my daily routine.They never asked us if we want to turn the site we have spent TONS of MONEY on,into DisneyDoll?


I hope with all my heart this gonna be fake.I said that to my mum and she said that,it can't be true,cause Disney is a victim of the economical crisis.Anyway :'[

Lolly140 said...

This is devastating stardoll has been around for ages and if it became disneydoll ,stardoll would really be gone. Disney did realy well with Club Penguin as you can buy things like ds games and birthday cakes which would bring more people to stardoll if they took over but it wouldnt be the same ! :(

lauren (2000loz123) said...

omg what NOO omg this cant happen we should make a prodect on stardoll like totally

Romana/Romana.Dawn said...

Crap mistake.
Lol, Why stardoll would sell this site when they see almost 90 milion members loving this site as it is. Maybe i am a little girl and all of you think that I would love to dress like a princess. Lol. I love vintage, I love everything. I love hot buys. Babes, you get crazy!!!!! Stardoll have to stay here untill we bleed buying stardollars and ss days.
Nothing will be the same without my soul site.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/antidisneydoll/

Romana/Romana.Dawn said...

There maybe will not be hotbuys, starpoints, stardollars... will be a bullshit.

RubyWhitmore said...

I totally agree with you :/ I think we should make some kind of well not petition but something to show the stuff of stardoll that we don't want to play in Princess world. If they want something for little girls then just add a few dolls like princesses and one store with that dresses and it's done. I really like it the way it is now, the antidote and LE's and similar stuff, I think if Disney buys stardoll, all of that will be gone. So much for the interesting stardoll :/ I'm not sure if I want to leave after, depending on how bad the things will be then. I hope they (the stuff) would realize how much we don't need that much of a change :(

bella_rox985 said...

THIS IS TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why cant Disney make their own site called Disneydoll and be partners or something with stardoll so they can get a lot of members!!!!!If Disney does buy stardoll and only makes a few changes(new background,dolls,etc.) then i might stay but if they get rid of the one place where I can test out fashion,see what looks good and what doesnt,the one place to escape the real-world c**p I am quitting.stardoll will lose a lot of members and that wont be good for disney becuase im pretty sure they only want the site for all its members,superstar memberships, and buying stardollars so it can get advertisement to theolder crowd(becuase we usually get allowance,and some have jobs to spend on stardoll) Im gonna make soooo many clubs and sooooo many letters(w/ my 13+ accounts till im 13)that they cant ignore me and they have to think about what they are doing!!!!!! NO DISNEYDOLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kraujo sparnai;*]-zuiQis♥ said...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
It's can't be true:(
Stardoll is my life,but "Disneydoll" ?

Exxa said...

DISNEYDOLL!

How old do they think we are?
Why the HECK would i want to dress up in pink princess dresses?
GRR, I might as well go watch CINDERALLA!

Zoey/zoey-good_girl★ said...

I don't think it will happen

Prinzessa said...

Please. Where did u find the info that membership on CLUB PENGUIN costs 30 dollars/month??? My sis plays there and it's 5,95 dollars/month. So go and change this on your article b4 people start panicing even more...

AND Disney is such a big company, they could just make a disneydoll for themselves and sooo many people would start play on it (check PIXIE HOLLOW out for example)

Disney wouldn't pay such a big amount of money just for changing the whole concept. Also, they wouldn't tell anything b4 everything is 100% sure. (so the letter this girl found is 100% fake, u can't even find it on the net)

ASK URSELF where this letter came from. It's obvious Stardoll will be sold some day - the owners will earn big money on that. But as I already said, if Disney would buy it they wouldn't change the whole site (like they didn't with Club Penguin, they just own it and it's exactly the same as b4.)

WAIT FOR OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT FROM STARDOLL!!!

Elena / KoolKatGirl19 said...

I can't believe this will actually be taking place!!! Why can't anyone see that we don't like these changes? Is Stardoll that greedy that they wouldn't even listen?! Stardoll is practically my everything, and now DISNEY is taking it away. Disney ruins EVERYTHING!

Anonymous said...

this all started on dove club. we all thought it was a bunch of crap. i guess we were wrong

MonicaMillgram said...

I honestly don't care who owns stardoll. Only thing I care is the content. I started playing stardoll because of fashion. And if disney or any new owner replace the fashion with it's own crappy stuff like disney princesses for example, I will just leave. I and believe I wouldn't be the only one. So I hope whoever buys stardoll, they won't change it, because that would be just stupid, they would loose a lot of paying customers.

Anonymous said...

how can stardoll do this to use some people (and me aswell ) have got so many time and MONEY token in to there account dont they understand that whe all gonna be very dissapionted HELLO WHE LOVE STARDOLL AND THE FASHION when it comes to making lots of money stardoll don't care what whe have to say or what stardol means to use they only whant the money !!! IM VERRY DISAPIONTED IN STARDOLL RIGHT KNOW HOW CAN THEY DO THIS TO USE !!!!!!!

Tammy_01 said...

I still don't think this is a bad thing or a goodbye. And by that time I'll be like 17 and I won't really care about Stardoll. I think this will be a good thing and it might bring even more celebrities to Stardoll.

Tammy_01 said...

Oh and maybe ss will become less then, if they expand the clientel to younger people... maybe Stardoll will still be the same concept...

Tammy_01 said...

I totally agree with Monica

Anonymous said...

Do Disney press really write like that? Or is this some one else letter? And who's Ms or Mrs. Wrang? Disney already owns a lot.

~Saku

MissCeaaria said...

well im deffo leaving stardoll then. there'll be lik 5-8 year olds on here, and there woulld be a huge downfall in members!

Erica_B said...

I really like the idea. Don't be bad with me because of what I like.

Carolyn (LonnaLang) said...

This is so horrible. :( This needs to stop. D: I messaged SD about it and I'm waiting for a reply. THIS IS HORRIBLE! DDD:

Nowandwhenever/Demi_lavato10 said...

Oh Hell No.
Worst Nightmare EVER.....

Nowandwhenever/Demi_lavato10 said...

Excuse my language.
And too the other people, The Proof is there, I hate it too.....

zuzuska007 said...

STardoll has been part of my life for almost 4 years !! I know its only virtual,but I could meet friends,and i met many great people ! I could make my own outfits,my own suite,it was something like my other world,when in real life something wasnt good,i went to stardoll,and it was better,stardoll made and makes me feel better many times ! :( PLEASE,STAY STARDOLL,STAY GAMAE FOR US,STAY A FASHION GAME !

miss.privacy said...

really hope that is not gonna happen...cant support disney so i would leave.

zuzuska007 said...

BUT WHEN stardoll wanted to warn us ? WHEN they plan to tell us ? =/

katara4 said...

you wrote true words, whcih touches me.. lol

i just hope sd wont be sold to disney.. or anyone...
i'm 15, soon 16, i havent ever liked disney that much, and i have ALWAYS hated princess stuff....

i couldnt imagine 'disneydoll' or whatever the website will be called then...
and if i dont like it, i'll leave..

i spent nearly 3 years, amazing 3 years on here and i'd be really sad if sd will be changed ._.

Anonymous said...

Well this sux. I cant believe DISNEY will probably buy stardoll. I do NOT want to look like a 3 year old!And superstar costs enough! I can not afford 2 keep one if it costs like $30 a month. If disney buys stardoll that would be the crappiest investment ever! everyone with a brain would quit and they'd earn no money. Kepp stardoll as it is!

Anonymous said...

wat the hell, this is outrageous!!! >:(

Maddy2981 said...

I can`t imagine disneydoll. >:(
I really hope this is fake.!

Fluzzard said...

NOOOOOOOOO!!! I WILL DEFINATELY LEAVE STARDOLL IF IT BECOMES DISNEYDOLL! This is such a joke. I love stardoll, it's my life, and Disney will ruin it. I've spent like $50 on Stardoll, and it would all go to waste. I don't want Disney to take over the online world, and if they DO buy stardoll, then it will be like: "Ooh fairies and princesses!!". They already have Pixie Hollow for that!!! Also, if they still expect "Disneydoll" to have 91 million members, they need to wake up and get over themselves. Say no to Disneydoll!!!!

10natasha10/Tasha♥ said...

Wha....what? Bullcarp NO they can't do that!!!!

Hannah (iluvmumble333) said...

A part of me thinks a lot of people are over reacting. Everyone keeps saying its going to be all princesses and dresses...

YOU DONT EVEN KNOW THIS FOR SURE.

Everyone should just chillax and wait for a final verdict....

Avril14140/Mihaela said...

It's so sad.Stardoll means so much to me and I know a lot of other users!
I don't know what would happen if we all become stupid,pinkish princess.That just can't be true,I still hope it's not.Disney can't take-over SD!NEVER!!
I honestly hope this would never accomplish.Never.

I don't know what's Stardoll doing,but in my opinion it's not good at all.

What if it's something happpening with Stardoll industry.What if is this the best for them (BUT NO FOR US DEFINITELY).What if they don't have any other options then this?What if,what if..?
Ugh.It's sooo.ugh!

Why can't everything be normal?Just like before.

I-Love-Pigs said...

Oh whoops, it does mention Princesses in it.
#'_'# lol

I think the way it's written makes it sound more fake, e.g. "We're still deciding if we would like to change the name of Stardoll TO MAYBE Disneydoll..."
It just sounds like a casual e-mail to your friend than an official thing on a website.


Also, I noticed they said "Nothing is official yet", yet they've got teams on "The new and improved layout."

It just doesn't seem right to me. :/

Rammona said...

Well,I hope if Disney buys Stardoll,they will keep the format and wont make it a princess world,because if they do this,they will lose all the users after 11 years old,and this will be a very,very bad investition.

For me Stardoll it's like my wonderland,it's a place where I can be someone else,I can express my style without anyone criticize it,and if someone does,I don't really care,it's a place where I'm feeling myself,and I'm on stardoll for half a year.

Pandaeyes239 said...

Thats quite a good point made, people who live in Sweden should do a protest, on behalf of all of the 9Omillion members :DD

Fluzzard said...

OMG im so pissed off.

lorena1010 / LittleFaith said...

1st. I will leave stardoll when Disney buys it. I'm 13 years old, I don't hate Disney but I think is too childish, I don't want to have a "Princess" instead of a medoll ¬¬

2nd. Somebody copied you this post, she translated it into Spanish (but she translated it seriously bad -.-). It was SofiaBurbano03, look at the spanish copied post here

stardollwordl.blogspot.com/2011/01/prueba-de-disneydoll.html

She's such a copycat, she even said SHE mad it -.- arghh, seriosuly, that makes me angry :@

(Btw sorry if my English is not so good, I'm Latin American)

Anonymous said...

I would have read the entire post if not for the distracting font. Please change the font, it looks odd, in my oppinion.

Anonymous said...

Well... as long as Disney doesn't change anything much, (like clubs, starplaza, medolls, presentations etc) I won't care. But if they rename it, or change it too much... it will ruin my stardoll life.

Stardoll is like a sanctuary to me. It's a place to get away from real life... stress etc :/

Everything will change. :/ Please stardoll, if you read, DO NOT SELL. Please ): They'll make everything too..... 'U' if you get what I mean.

fashiongirl963 said...

It would be all right if they wouldn't change it's main things like fashion etc... but if they will make a walls of suite with mickey mouse and your doll which would look like a mermaid I'm quitting there !!!!!

Anonymous said...

Oh Lordy. PrincessDoll? DisneyDoll? Somebody KILL ME. PRINCESS THEMES? I swear. The head bitch of Disney is pissing my ass off. Imma get my Brooklyn ass outta this computer screen and whip a bitch.
& Oh fucking lorddyyy. Fun for all girl ages? DUDE. No fucking 18 year old girl will enjoy fucking Cinderella suites. Jesus.

Sanne said...

Holly Shit! *.*
Please, Stardoll tell us it's a joke!

Anonymous said...

You people are so stupid. It's fake. A girl made it up as a joke.

Anonymous said...

For I don't know what the changes are there will be.. But hearing 'Princess theme' and 'DisneyDoll'?

Let me just say: F M L!
Let me repeat: F. M. F. L.

Just when I decided to buy Superstarmembership for a full year(!!!), for the first time ever, they decided to let some big company take over. Let's sugar coat it and make it even more pink and fluffy and let's bake cupcakes with rainbows on 'em and all be happy and love eachother and.. barf!

Fuck my life.

princessfusion said...

Gosh, an OCer made this up. It's fake

xoxo_angel13 said...

WHY,WHY WOULD STARDOLL DO THIS!
NO, this isn't possible!

It's really a disappointment. I created my stardoll account a few months ago and was really getting attached to the website. Everyday after school, I would get on my laptop and onto stardoll. I just don't think Disneydoll, or Stardisney or whatever the name is; I don't think it can be the same...........Although I have to admit I am curious to know what they come up with.....

Shayan. said...

Goddammit, if it happens then fuck im done.
im leaning off sd anyways, so yeah.

chocolatofreak said...

Fuck you Stardoll :/

You know what kind of people play on Stardoll?
Ages range from like 8 to like even 40 year olds.
It's a great site for all.
We all love this website and have spent a great deal of time and money on this addictive site.

We made friends here.
Friends that we can never forget.
Although we can't like possibly meet them in real life, we've learned so much from each other.

On Stardoll, we can also express ourselves.
What about those scary, gothic, emo people?
They feel like scared to do all that in real life, so then they go around and be who they want to be on Stardoll. (I'm not like gothic or anything, but I met like a whole bunch who are lol).

And what about all the people who spent time buying superstar memberships?
You know that's not cheap. And for you to take that away, that's cold hearted.
What will happen to all of the things we've achieved on Stardoll?
Where will all that go?
Will that all still be there on "Disneydoll?" or are will all going to look like princesses and shit?

I've spent 4 years on this damn site.
It's fucking addictive. I know, that's really sad.
But I am legitimately addicted to playing on this website. I have like so much shit to say lol,
but it'd take forever, and I doubt you'd read this.

Well, yeah,
just fuck you.
:/

chocolatofreak said...

lol, I've been trying to leave this stupid wesite since June of 2008.
But I kept coming back,
you know why?
Because I enjoy this addictive website.
I'm been playing on Stardoll like legit for like everyday for like almost 5 years now.

I heard this will all like change in like December 2012.
In December of 2012, I'll be a senior in high school, I suppose that's a good time to stop playing on this childish website.

Kaora said...

Stardoll is very important to me - I have my account since 2007. I've spent a lot of money, time on it and I can't believe it will turn into pink, plastic Disneydoll. Of course I don't actually know how stardoll will look like after the metamorphose, but love the way it is now. If it's true I'll leave.

Sorry for my english.
OliwiaSara

PinkLivepool/Grace said...

I thought that 'disneydoll' was just a prank by Anna, I must be wrong D:

Gracieux said...

That message from Disney seems fake.. Why would a big company tell anybody about their plans? Buying something and taking over does take paper work, why would you even inform the audience about that, we know..? Bad attempt.

Natoustars said...

My heart is broken :(

Anonymous said...

To me, Stardoll is a place where we can express ourselves in endless ways. It's a place where we can do many things we're not able to do in real life and it's like a mini world for kids. But I really don't see the problem in Disney buying Stardoll and maybe that's because I don't know the worst that can happen.

sim1623 said...

I agree with everyone, stardoll can't ever do this. What about my medoll and other stuff. Does stardoll ever care about us ?

sim1623 said...

And I agree with iovonca, stardoll will just become a site for small kids with all the disney princesses stuff and imagine. On stardoll T.V. commercials, they would say: "Make sure to get a adult before going online to the site" Cause seriously who will ever who is 12+ will go to Disneydoll.

BTW: The name is soo childish

Hermine_1990 said...

So all this times and money we spent on stardoll will be for nothing or what? :(

axia473 said...

i hate this! it's so not fair! most girls that are members on sd are over the age of 10, and don't want to wear pink frilly dresses. when the time comes, are we even going to protest? i hope so. someone should make a petition.

Jesica said...
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rosirosiful said...

this is horrible D: I hate disney.. they want everything for them, I bet they aim for worl domination or something like that ¬¬
this is a huge mistake, if
I think that, unfortunately, strardoll staff don't care about us, the only thing they care about is money and business... that's what I think
and, if disney has they money to buy stardoll, why don't they make their own princess dressup webpage, so kids can play there? I think this is better, isn't it?
if disney buys stardoll I will definetively quit.. it will just become trash...

Natoustars said...

I'm 14 years old, and I can't thinking that i'll say : My favourite online game is Disneydoll!
We are not children ! :((((( I'm thinking about leaving stardoll if it change....

SeancicPoulcic2 ♥ said...
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SeancicPoulcic2 ♥ said...

A giant misstake. They are taking too big step so we can't follow them :( They really don't know what Stardoll means to us. Yesterday, when I saw the post, I...OMG no. I just can't believe this is happening :(

Anyone knows how to contact Stardoll? Anyone going to make clubs?

I am TERRIFIED. I can't imagine Stardoll image on the top transforming to "Disneydoll". Hell no.

- I loved Disney before, but now I can't wait for it to crush down.

Anwar-7 said...

OOOOOOOOH !OMG !

i cant' believe that

me and all my friends will leave the site when it's become Disneydoll !

i waaaaant to say for Disney : you will lose 90 millions members when you buy the site , We love stardoll and i hope it's jock ! that's really crap .

Anonymous said...

Well Goodbye Everyone, I Dont have Anything to stay here on Stardoll if it's Disney's It's been nice knowing you :]


This is what i wrote to the Owner on Stardoll {hazurama}

Dont Sell Stardoll! This is my only place to be myself! As a victim of bulling this is the only place i can be myself & Have friends. Please Dont sell it!


-Marshmello422

Anonymous said...

i think it is ridiclous that disney might buy stardoll! how could stardoll do it to us?

Patty Zaldivar said...

This is painful to read!!!!I can't believe this is going to happen!!!I just can't!!I've playing for 2 years and I'm loving it!I really hope they're just playing!!I'm leaving if this crap happens!!NO DISNEYDOLL!!

chickorange said...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. lol thts all i can say.!!

Clairepop said...

These idiots at disney don't see what a stupid idea this is. No one will stay absoloutely no one.

Clairepop said...

This is pretty much the black plague or holocaust of stardoll.Almost everyone there will die.

natasha-rox286 said...

I'm really annoyed about this
and this is ridiculous. I love disney and stuff but why pick on stardoll. Iv'e been there ever since 2007 and seeing this change really gets on my nerves. I don't want it to be princessy i want stardoll to be stardoll...

Disney should be sponsoring.
well they techniqualy are. but not talking over the whole stardoll.

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Pandaeyes239 said...

I reckon we should make a large petition about it :D
Try and get the whole 90million members to sign it ;]
( However impossible it may seem )

Or even just make a massive protest , where everyone leaves Stardoll for like 4 or 5days ?

We have to do something !

Fluzzard said...

OK, I'VE READ A LOT OF THESE COMMENTS, AND NONE OF THEM ARE PROMOTING DISNEYDOLL. I HATE THE IDEA AND SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE. IF DISNEY WANTS TO BUY STARDOLL, THERE'S GONNA BE ONE HECK OF A PISSED OFF CROWD OF 90 SOME MILLION MEMBERS!!! WHT THE CRAP ARE THEY THINKING?!?!

MissLiLLyLo said...

I have no words for it! I will like vomit!
Say hello to tinkerbell and barbie and white horses. Oh seriously?
I will vomit! -.-

Blair said...

Girls do not know if you heard the news, in less than a year Stardoll will be bought by Disney which will make a site dedicated to the Disney Princesses for girls!
Unfortunately it's all true and confirmed by the same stardoll!
All Stardoll is in turmoil, however, I'm there! How many of us girls, especially those over 16 years, will remain on a site that incece that fashion will dress up princess?? (with all due respect and consideration that I love, but it is not a site like this that want to participate!)
Join the club on Stardoll NO.DISNEYDOLL (http://www.stardoll.com/it/clubs/home.php?id=2528209) and spread the word, together we can do it!!

If you want to contact me my name is on sd Geneviev82!
Xoxo to all ^ ^

Alia said...

No. Disney will turn stardoll into a toddler's doll house, with no clubs, and a community of 'fun friends' who you can only talk to with 'pre-approved' words.

Fluzzard said...

*Sniffs*
I'm gonna cry!! (And my bffl is about to hurl... same here)

Fluzzard said...

Wait! I'm gonna cry THEN hurl!

Ana Beatriz/kitty_power5 said...

I think this isn't true, but if it is... then RUN BITCHEZZZ

Carleit said...

I don`t think Stardoll will sell Stardoll. They have so many paying members and loyal members. Why would they give that all away when they are at the top of their game? Maybe its true ,but we dont really have any idea right now. If you try and look something up about Stardoll being sold nothing will come up. I technically dont know it is true but if you really think about doesnt seem a little suspicious?

Anonymous said...

T3H3H3
:')

natasha-rox286 said...

It's True
They approved it.
How much prooving do you want :S

Munni said...

Omg I am one the edge of losing it!!
WTH DISNEY COMES ALONG AND BUYS EVERYTHING NOWADAYS!!
GOD SD is a place for pple ALL ages. And now "DisneyDoll??"
Wat the heck!!
It's gonna feel like you're playing on a site for 5-6 year-olds. :@

Munni said...

I'VE HAD ENUFF OF DISNEY!!!
God next thing we know our "Medoll's" r gonna look like mickey and minnie. Hell, EVEN PLUTO!!

Oayes said...

This would really stink. I mean look, stardoll got us into the fashion world like Alexander Mcqueen,Pucci,and all thoes other fancy brands. And then disney comes along and takes all of it away. Now were going to have dress like princeses and take away our all fancy clothes and change them to that Hannah Montana stuff! P

Munni said...

They are probably gonna babyproof everything also.
Yanno get rid of all the aggresive and Non-role model-ish dolls they have 4 dress-up.

Larsa_Gurl said...

This cannot be true! If it changes, I'm leaving stardoll --- no please excuse me, 'disneydoll'. Wtf stardoll? Selling us to Disney? They are probably gonna make a pregnant Hannah Montana doll in our suites -.-

Munni said...

Srry i'm commenting a lot cuz im PISSED!!
As said by "lovanca" (comment on the bottom.)

If stardoll dies, my medoll, dawnsglow,
will die with it!!

Munni said...

Yanno wat??
Someone should buy DISNEY!!!
And crush it to pieces!!
With a bulldozer and one of those machines with the big round ball that breaks stuff. :P

harakochan said...

AARGH! First Disney buys Marvel comics, now they're gonna buy my virtual home? I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS!!! If Disney buys, I'm SO gone.

Anonymous said...

I hate disney, all that plastic and pink shit. I dont want any hannah montana or sth in my suite.
Fuck off, disney

jippenjippen said...

Oh great im going to be a princess this is like a straw it sucks. But i will give it a chance to prove itself. Darn disney thet ruin evrything

Fluzzard said...

Ugggggggg I could literally write a whole page on a rant about how freakin pissed off @ Disney I am. I mean, wht the crap?! PRINCESS THEME?! ik i've written the same thing about 4 or 5 times, but this SUCKS LIKE A DUM DUM!!!!!! Disney needs to fall in a ditch.

Rab92 said...

Before I Thought Disney Buying Stardoll Would Be Good Idea, With It Bringing New/More Members.
But Now As I Read The Post & Comments I Believe It`s The Wrong Decision For Stardoll To Make. First, No One Wants To Play In A Childs Website (That Disney Will Turn Stardoll Into). Secondly, It Will Lose Alot Of Members!

Rab92.

Erin said...

This would be a seriously bad idea on both Stardoll's part, and Disney's.

It seems to only be a few of the younger members who are even OK with this kind of change. Everyone else doesn't want it to happen. Personally, I would try this website, but definitely NOT pay any money for a membership, unless they don't change ANYTHING for the worse. Luckily, if this is true, we still have over a year (Unless it's sped up or something, which could be possible).

Stardoll- PLEASE. DON'T. DO. THIS.

Erin said...

And by the way, imagine what things like clubs, chat, and/or friends would be like on here if Stardoll was changed into a more kid-oriented site. I have to admit, some stuff is NOT the most child-friendly, but Kid-Lock is a great idea for keeping younger users a bit safer.

Back to the point. If you've ever been on a website that's like BarbieGirls or something like that, you will notice that chat and messages are HORRIBLE. Almost everything you say is bleeped out OR you can only send pre-formed messages. It would be horrible!

Anonymous said...

:S

i can't believe this


http://i52.tinypic.com/ie0579.jpg

Mursal12345 said...

NO!!!!! I DONT WANT TO LOOK LIKE PRINCESESS!!!!! THERE WILL BE NO MORE DESIGNER CLOTHING OR MAKE-UP OR JEWLERY???!!!!??!?!?!!? I HATE THIS!!!!

Anonymous said...

You should look at this:

http://i53.tinypic.com/24gnfxl.png

EssRox said...

I like it as it is.

Anonymously Saying said...

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If disney buys stardoll I will officially be leaving.
Reason number one:
Disney ruined Club Penguin (which they did not actually make, disney bought club penguin and apparently ruined it), and their other games they actually made, not bought, are L-A-M-E.
Reason number two:
Disney would probably (99.9 percent chance) not allow us to say anything we want (with the exception of bad words)and treat us like little girlies with safe chat that only allows us to say pre-approved words like on Pixie Hollow, or worse, 'open' chat like on Club Penguin where hardly ANYTHING shows up. Its not bleeped out, it just doesn't show up in the chat bubble. Its EXTREMELY annoying, especially when your trying to talk to somebody and what you said didn't show, and then the person your talking to thinks your ignoring them and leaves. -.-"""""
Reason number three:
Disney would probably increase the prices for the memberships and stardollars -.-
Reason number four:
Disney is a huge company, you know? I always feel like Stardoll is a community, and with Disney being so huge and advertised, there would be a GIANT number of noobs. And oh. my. god. If 'preps' from Club Penguin find stardoll,... No comment.
Reason number 5: (WORST)
Disney probably WOULD turn stardoll into a princess website. Stardoll is a perfect candidate for that.

I also think that there is a good chance that this is a hoax, but I doubt it..

natasha-rox286 said...

look what i found
what this girl posted

^^^
i53.tinypic.com/24gnfxl.png

i think its a prank guys

zaixhi said...

i have heard that this is only a joke

superstar4eva12 said...

If Stardoll was to be purchased by Disney and kept in the same way it is now (or improved) i would be fine with it.

But, if it was to be Disney Princess themed, changed so that the clothes were fully Disney (Like Hannah Montana clothes), or changes its name, then i would not be happy.

It could be a good thing if it is not changed for the worse, but it could be a bad thing. Its best to keep open minds on this before we jump to conclusions.

Disneydoll? Come on! Thats terrible. I believe that this message that has been found is highly fake, i mean what company would make public a deal before it was confirmed, they could lose the deal! But i believe that the prospect of Disney buying Stardoll is very realistic.

I mean, if they were to add for example Hannah Montana stores and keep our current stores running then i would not have much of a problem with it. Its if they change it drastically, like changing key demographics or the way we play, then i have a problem.

I will not buy anymore memberships if the prices are raised, they are already high enough. Also if they get rid of the pay by phone option i will not buy.

prima.princess said...

NO!!!!!!! This is a pathetic idea! Many will even leave stardoll (or disney doll, i must say). It will all be ruined! It will be so kiddish then! ;(

We all are truly against it, does stardoll even get it!? Why not we make a campaign or petition against this horrible idea & make everyone sign? I mean, We hav more than 90 million members for it!

Rosalie-Miley said...

I hate disney!! Grr!

Fairydew said...

I hope that staroll will stay as it is!!!!!! Disney cant buy it!!! :((( Dont destroy our world!!!!

Esther said...

So happy that this i snot trruee!!!

Kristinkakiki said...

That isn´t fake,stardoll wanted to let buy it but....everyone didnt want it soo...

Kristinkakiki said...

That isn´t fake,stardoll wanted to let buy it but....everyone didnt want it soo...

Kristinkakiki said...

That isn´t fake,stardoll wanted to let buy it but....everyone didnt want it soo...

hp-4ever said...

No offence but I still don't believe this. It's all just too ridiculous to believe in... I won't believe any of this things until I see it on Stardoll's official blog or site.
But, if it is true then it'll be very sad... :( I'm here for more than 3 and a half years, almost 4, and I made great friends! It'll be weird not talking to them every day like usual... :/ I really hope this is just a big prank made by someone wo's very bored in his/her life...

niki-chick said...

i reckon its all fake.. hopefully!!!!

Qeeny4 said...

serious who ever came up with this scam is weird..

Anonymous said...

its fake
it jst a prank made by a person on stardoll called ...e_O... and they addmit tht they did it

Anonymous said...

This sum fuckin bullshit now who da fuck wanna be a princess this is rediculus .Disney is 4 kids and im sure dat nobody over the age 14 or 16 is gonna wanna stay... if this happens IM LEAVIN !!!

Anonymous said...

ummmm stardoll is everything to me, my life would completley suck without it i don't have that many friends and i'm shy but behind the monitor i feel like a whole different person... i feel pretty, confident, outgoing, and like i can do anything!!! without stardoll i will be bored all the freakin time!!! and i'm 13 so i really don't want to go on here and prance around like a 5 year old! i don't care if disney buys it as long as they keep it the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

elezaria said...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
This can't be happening.

Stardoll is my everyday routine.I played this for almost 2 years.I loved my medoll.

Princess is not my type since I'm four and they'll make some princess themes,dolls and What do they call if they have superstars ,starprincess.

Stardoll has gone so far.They're gonna sell this to make it to a 4 & 5 year old thing.

I love fashion but pink clothes is
so girlish to me.

I'm leaving if this happens.

missycool-cool said...

If it weren't for stardoll,

I wouldn't know all the amazing people hiding behind those computers now!
I wouldn't know Ruth, Jolene, Alot of people from New Zealand!
Alot of people from new zealand that are on stardoll that GO to my SCHOOL!
I wouldn't know any of those amazing people!
And If They turn stardoll into a bunch of disney CRAP,
The only people on the stupid website would be 3-4 Year olds!
I won't meet any new friends, becos The 3-4 year olds playing it won't understand me! There flippin' too young!
So if Stardoll turns into disney-doll,
I'll leave faster than you can say DAMN!

Pandy said...

This can't be true, it isn't true guys. I have mailed Stardoll asking and they said "No, we are not intrested in selling Stardoll to Disney". Its not true. And Disdoll? Disney has much more uniqueitivity then that anyway. AND I even know the person who faked it! All they had to do to spread it around was post the link to OC and AD, they ate it up like sharks and spreaded it everywhere. The person who made the first thing up just had good Photo Shop skills. And there is no "Disney News" OR whatever it was, its not true guys so don't worry.

sk8ergirl_967 said...

Come On! You guys Realy Belive stardoll Will let disney Take Over! There Not that stupid are they? Anyways If they do then... Stardolls Lost!! :@ We can put an end to this Disney Crap! If we all work together!

smokydragon said...

Just thinking about it. Some of us have spent thousands and thousands on their suites, and worked hard to get last in stock, LE, and anything else that they want t collect.
I for one, dont want all that wasted. Im a stardoll royalty. I've spent for nearly 2 years membership so far, just for it all to go to Disney?
Dont get me wrong, I love disney. I have since I was little. But taking over a website with over 111,000,000 members, and changing it to a 7 year old website doesnt sound like a smart business move.
Disney wont make a profit from buying stardoll, everyone paying for it will terminate their accounts. They're really wasting their money.
My stardoll, smokydragon, is about to die with stardoll. Even if I have spent nearly £100 on her.

Stupid idea. I might not be on stardoll in a year, but I dont want it to ruin everyone elses lives.

MissSosy2001 said...

NO NO NO NO NO stardoll mebers will just leave stardoll nobody will be active I HATE THAT

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